(11-13-2017, 04:47 PM)ace-af Wrote: [ -> ]My guess (for the current version of the game at least) for such a problem is that the shipping distance was too far from the factory and needed to be increased.
Depending on which version of the game you're playing (there are several "current" versions) the amount of units you ship greatly effects shipping costs.
If you are on v1.22, shipping 1 vehicle across the world would be significantly more expensive per unit than shipping 100 units that same distance. (On a per unit basis.)
v1.22.2 (I believe) and on have changed this to a flat rate for shipping, so it does not matter how many units you ship. It also gives you a min and a max for all factories in your range. This was done to simplify the shipping formulas for easier display of information with our limited GUI system.
Quote:Which leads me to what I feel is important feedback on this matter - it took me quite long to figure out that 'shipping distance' means the shipment from the factory to the branch, not from the brach to the customer (even though this is stated in one of the question marks, I think). It's a bit misleading -
The help button on the shipping distance slider is a bit ambiguous, but it does not state anything about shipping to "customers" (in this case Dealerships).
In fact it specifically says:
"This slider will allow you to adjust the maximum distance in which the selected branch or branches will ship vehicles from. The further a branch has to go out to find vehicles from factories, the more expensive transportation costs will be."
The wording might need to be cleaned up a bit. But it still points out "will ship from" and "find vehicles from factories". So I'm not sure where you got the "customer" connection from. (FYI, dealerships generally pass on transportation costs from the branches to the dealership to customers of the dealership. This is why there is a "Delivery Fee" when you buy a new vehicle.)
Quote:and I still don't know how to really get a sense of costs incurred from shipping cars between continents.
The shipping costs are listed on the right hand side of the Branch Distribution Window (where you enter price of vehicles.) I believe it's labeled as "Min/Max Transport Costs Per Vehicle."
Quote: Also, this led me to hardly open any branches - because I mistook to think that a branch with high shipping distance will reach customers in all its continent, world, etc.
The shipping distance slider, as you found out, is how far a branch will pull vehicles from factories, thus incurring your transport costs. Dealerships (your customers) pay for their own shipping from your Branch Distribution points to their lots. They in turn pass it to their customers, the consumer who buy vehicles.
Quote:Generally, I think just a little more clarificatiton is needed in-game for the path a sold vehicle makes from the factory to the end consumer, the machanisms and the costs involved in it.
There is not much more I can do other than explain the mechanisms as I do in the Help buttons. This is because the game can not know exactly how many vehicles you're going to ship before you actually sell the vehicles, and where you sell them.
The Min/Max Transportation Help Button (at least as of v1.22.2) specifically states:
"A number of factor(typo) effect where shipping vehicles are shipped from. Where the vehicles are made, the city ratings, and how many vehicles need to be shipped to other cities all have an impact on which vehicles get shipped to this location. The game will automatically chose the cheapest options possible depending on shipping priorities."
The game prioritizes the vehicles with the highest margins. It then pulls vehicles from the cheapest place possible. And goes down the list if more vehicles are needed.
Quote:So e.g. I could tell that the L.A factory took 50 sedans from the detroit factory
I assume you mean LA branch.
Quote: it needed more cars so it took 25 from the stockholm factory, and shipping costs for LA were 50*x+25*y, etc.
Yes, LA branch needed 75 vehicles. It took as many as it could from the cheapest location possible until they were out. It then took the remaining it needed from the second cheapest place.
As for giving the player the exact amount it costs. How do I figure out how many vehicles are you going to sell before you sell them? How do I figure out how many sales you will get in other cities? How do I figure out what moves you might make later in the turn that would adjust this price figure? Impossible things to answer.
The solution I have is to give you a range, thus why you are displayed a minimum and a max transportation costs. Adjust your shipping distances, shipping districts, and custom districts so that you do not occur large shipping costs and can easily price in your shipping costs by restricting where the vehicles can be sourced from.
As for giving you this data after the fact. It could be done, but it would be very costly to turn times as this exact data is not recorded, and would have to be, then turned into an html report. Even then, it wouldn't be that helpful, because at least in large companies the shipping is rarely ever the same turn to turn based on fluctuation in sales and production.
Final thing I would like to point out. v1.22 is the default build, but it generally very far behind the most recent version of the game. There were several changes made to the shipping distance system that you may want to try out.
Any suggestions on how to reword these help buttons would be greatly appreciated.
. It may be that it's just a matter of low population; I noticed something similar with my latest expansion into Las Vegas (1911) where the branch has had no sales after several months. Again probably just a matter of low population and my emphasis on fairly expensive cars.